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2025

Second Brains, Biometric Socks, and the AI Classroom: Lisa Dieker on the Future of Learning

“I was the daughter of a mechanic and a librarian—I know a thing or two about fixing things, building things, and making sense of way too much information.” —Dr. Lisa Dieker

In This Episode:
We talk to Dr. Lisa Dieker about why the future of learning isn’t robots replacing teachers—it’s humans and AI teaming up (with a little extra caffeine and a lot of biometric gadgets thrown in). As the Williamson Family Distinguished Professor at the University of Kansas and Director of the FLITE STEM Center, Lisa’s on a mission to hack how we teach, learn, and support every kind of mind out there.

She takes us for a walk through her real-life MacGyver childhood, her family’s journey navigating disability, and her relentless pursuit to democratize access to education technology. If you’ve ever wondered whether “second brains” (read: AI copilots, fancy wearables, and those heart rate monitors you pretend you understand) actually help kids learn, or just give parents more to stress about—yeah, she’ll set you straight. Why are so many teachers burning out? Why can’t schools just teach to everyone’s strengths? And are spelling tests just baby boomer torture devices at this point?

What We Cover:

  • How to blend AI, gritty human teaching, and biometric feedback to finally move the education world out of the floppy disk era.
  • Why kids with learning differences (dyslexia, ADHD, neurodivergence—you name it) shouldn’t have to hack their own school success.
  • What today’s “second brain” tools like AI copilots and wearables are actually good for (hint: not just tracking your steps).
  • The future of classrooms: predictive dashboards, teacher biohacks, and why we should all be a little more forgiving with ourselves (and our kids).
  • How Lisa’s own story—first-gen college kid, sibling with disabilities, mom to one helluva creative gymnast—shapes everything she does.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Lisa Dieker is the Williamson Family Distinguished Professor of Special Education at the University of Kansas and heads up the FLITE STEM Center, where she’s busy making education accessible, equitable, and just a little less stuck in the 1980s. Lifelong advocate for students with disabilities, simulation geek, and accidental expert in the hacking of biometric gadgets, Lisa’s here to make you rethink everything you thought you knew about learning.

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Selected Links From This Episode:

People and Organizations Mentioned in This Episode:

  • The DeBruce Foundation (Agilities curriculum)
  • Google Vision Team (referenced for their work in computer vision, mentioned in collaboration context)
  • Meta (for metaverse glasses/hardware experiments)
  • Polar (wearable biometric devices)
  • Biopac (biometric ring for physiological data collection)
  • University of Kansas (Lisa’s academic affiliation)
  • U.S. Department of Education (funding source for portions of Lisa’s research)

Show Notes & Timestamps:

  • 6:00 – Why your “second brain” might be a game changer if you’re bored (or neurodiverse)
  • 12:00 – The myth (and reality) of AI replacing teachers
  • 22:00 – Biometric trackers: cool for athletes, secretly more useful for stressed-out teachers 
  • 35:00 – Why the real education revolution starts by hacking the system, not just the software 
  • 49:00 – Lisa’s secret sauce for making learning accessible, plus why some spelling rules are made to be broken

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